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Fri Oct 30, 2009, 5:05 AM
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I was recently approached by a representative from a subsidiary of the national trade organization and asked to give one of my pieces to a national campaign to promote independent bookstores. What first caught my eye was how her pitch borrowed much from the language of contemporary social justice movements. It was a cheerful, youthful message with subtle, anti-corporate undertones we've come to associate with many "indie" movements. Very seductive. But then I started thinking. I started to wonder if it ethical for a professional trade organization to entice illustrators to give away their art without pay? What if the offer is ostensibly about promoting a greater social good, like getting people to buy local, and that sort of thing? When a not-for-profit organization acts as an advocate for for-profit entities, particularly small, independent business, is it wrong for me to expect them to see illustrators as independent business people and support them as such?

I tried to rationalize her organization's position by pointing to the AIGA, which regularly solicits donations in the form of graphic design, printing and paper, volunteers, and in-kind donations at the local and national level. Vendors and other professionals routinely and generously give time and money in exchange for a by-line or company logo on a piece of marketing collateral. And it can't be easy getting people to give, especially in lean times. Maybe I should be honored and excited that someone wants to use my work and help me to gain national exposure.

The idea was to provide their members with files that could in turn be downloaded and printed at their own expense, and used as part of their in-store promotional materials. The idea, I assume, is to give customers an added feeling of value to their decision to buy from their store, and not just preview the book and get it for less online. And there's the rub. Whether it's a bookmark, a leave behind, or a poster in the children's section, the art would function like any other form of advertising designed to convince the viewer to spend money. At some point, a vendor, such as a local printer, gets paid to reproduce the pieces. The printer pays its suppliers, rent, and electricity bill. The bookseller pays its dues to the organization, rent, insurance, taxes, its employees.

Who pays me for my work? Doesn't it have value?

The membership dues for the organization's members range from $200 to $300, and they offer listings for approximately 1200 member bookstores nationwide. Somewhere in there has got to be a fair usage fee for my image or anyone else's for that matter. Ya think?

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Well, I think giving away artwork to a charity or non profit organization, as long as it goes with one's own views (political, environmental etc.) is OK. But not for download and allowing anyone to post it, soon you'll see it on t-shirts and stuff on ebay. Big no-no in my opinion. Plus as you said this is not charity. Why don't they buy a license from you or prints? If not I would agree for using the image on-line if you want to support the action, but not for printing.

I agreed recently for some USA college students to print my image with proper credits on tickets to their dance performance, which was going to rise money for paying back what school put into the preparation of the show, only parents and families were invited. I didn't give them high res images for what is on-line is enough for such a small image, plus I keep high res images out of public reach. But I treat it as a charity event and my little contribution into performance beckup, something non commercial in my opinion.

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The membership dues for the organization's members range from $200 to $300, and they offer listings for approximately 1200 member bookstores nationwide. Somewhere in there has got to be a fair usage fee for my image or anyone else's for that matter. Ya think?

This is the most significant section to me. I have been approached by quite a few not-for-profit businesses, a charity organization, and even a for-profit that wanted free work (or at the very least reduced price work). I don't mind donating work to a worthy cause. Go out of my way in some respects. But you can't sustain yourself if you are giving your work away. So I have had to say no even at times when my heart was telling me yes. The fact that they can pull in that kind of cash flow and can't (?) break you off a fair price makes me think they are trying to get over. I don't think its malicious but unfortunately how business is done these days. Trying to get something for nothing.

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Thanks for commenting, Sirielle. I wouldn't mind donating art to a genuine literacy or nutrition campaign, for example. A licensing agreement would be fair, but I think she's using her DA account to locate and contact artists. Art directors do this all the time, and I guess having the art just "dangling" out there online suggests that it's "free", a hobby, or not professional work.

I wonder what would happen if I made it available as a print.
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Exactly.

So maybe I can turn this into a positive. I have work in this gallery that is strong enough to get people's attention, and get them to take the time to ask to include it in a national campaign. So, I should probably include in the descriptions more information about the image's availability.
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Sounds plausible to me. Let them know from the gitgo what's up. Won't guarantee you won't still get similar inquiries but you will know you did your part it should make it easier to say no.

On another note, seems to me that artists without representation seem to be the ones most targeted for deals like that. Seems if you have a rep they automatically know they have to pay. If not they figure they can haggle with you, hand you a sob story, etc.

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Try and see :) Do not expect wonders, but it works differently in every artist's case. Anyway nothing to lose - if you're thinking of dA prints.

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I don't like the sound of it. If they're asking for one of your works with no such compensation or even copyright credit included in print, it sounds fishy.

On the other hand if they 'commissioned' you to work on one art piece and requested permission for print and advertising with credit, its okay since they paid for the artwork to be 'made for them'.

Its only my opinion.

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I agree. She offered a profile on their site, but it looks like the profiles are free anyway. She also mentioned that I would be credited, but none of the illustrations featured on the site or in the gallery she pointed me to have artists or photographers credited!

Anyway, I didn't get a reply from her, so I'm assuming she's no longer interested.
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Yeah. There's a post circulating about a project from the creator of a very successful vampires and werewolves franchise that's offering to pay artists "eventually" upon sale of the project. But the man's films made millions! So why hire artists on spec? It's just opening the door for more talent to get screwed by the same pitch.

Sickening.

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